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NEW PEPPER SHOWGROUP
Phil Robinshaw: Drums. Tommy Brooks: Lead Vocal.
Frankie Chean: Bass - took over when Les left.
Ray Patrick: Lead Guitar-Vocal.
This band originated from Pepper in the 1980's.
Frankie Chean: January 2010
Brian: Lead Guitar. Graham Lee Russel: Lead Vocal. Les: Bass Guitar Ray: Guitar.
George: Drums. Keyboard:
Latterly: Tommy Brooks: Lead Vocal.
"Just to add some more info for the group Pepper. The groups original line up was Les on bass, Brian on lead, George on drums, Graham on lead vocals and a keyboard player from Standish, Wigan.
The keyboard player turned down the chance to re-form the band so I joined the band as a second guitarist when they reformed. When the group split a new band formed with Les on bass, Ray on Guitar, Phil on drums and Tommy Brooks on lead vocal."
Ray Pepper: September 2010
"I think the version of Pepper mentioned on the Band Index Page must have been a re-formed version?
The original Pepper were going at the same time as Pokie - ie: 1976. I remember that if Pepper were in the crowd watching Pokie, we used to say over the mike that if the audience didn’t enjoy us that we were called Pepper, if they did we were called Pokie. We were great friends and rival groups of the day.
Pepper used to focus on Elvis Presley and the sixties stuff and did them 'smookin'. Great lads with loads of enthusiasm and talent. I can remember Graham Lee Russel on lead vocal - he used to dress in the white Rhine gold suit.
Brian on Guitar and Les on Bass. George was on the drum kit and used to get off his kit and do a version of Brewers Droop, very funny. Brian, the guitar player sadly died but he has a son, Paul, who plays bass and I believe may have joined the reformed group in 1979? - Comments anyone?
Graham Le Russel went on a solo career and later did a recording of 'Pal Of My Cradle Days'/'Let The Little Girl Dance'. The record did really well at the time and sold many of them around the local clubs. I have not heard from any of them since."
Garry Hughes: Bass player - Pokie: May 2010
Pip Stokes: Lead Guitar. Steve Morris: Drums. Graham Hill R-I-P: Bass Guitar.
Tony Houghton: Rythmn Guitar.
The Kibbos were 'Cottage's' first incarnation in the mid-sixties. Four great lads with one unique connection: They were all left handers or 'keggy handers or Kibbo's'.
Top Of The Pops..
As the decade wore-on they morphed into Rainbow Cottage and the first steps towards professionalism. Such was their passion to hit the big-time the band took to the road, left their traditional northern stomping ground and went for it! They travelled extensively for many years after the 1960's with the highlight of their career being an appearance on Top Of The Pops and Crackerjack in the mid 1970's singing the song 'Seagull' written by Brian Gibbs of the 'Answers'.
Bill Hart: June 2010
Seagull - Click below..
Mr Blue Skies
"I can tell you that I did write 'Seagull' which was recorded by Rainbow Cottage at Lansdowne Studio, London in 1976. The song reached No33 in the British Singles chart and the band appeared on Crackerjack and Top of the Pops in March 1976. 9 March for Crackerjack and 10 March for Top of the Pops."
Brian Gibbs: June 2010
Papa Jenks Bar..
"The band did two summer seasons in Blackpool at Papa Jenks Bar. They didn't do a third season but the group who replaced them was a little unknown group at the time called Smokie - Living Next Door To Alice.
Very, very sad about Graham Hill's demise. I along with many other people attended his funeral at Wigan Parish Church. I also wonder if 'Tears Before Bedtime' as been mentioned or not? Even though it was a duo Graham Hill was also connected to Rainbow Cottage as Brian Gibbs will probably confirm."
David Darbyshire June 2010
The Rainbow Cottage Story: Here..
Back Row : Rob Rose: Lead Guitar. Kevin Miller: Rhythm Guitar.
Martin Tatlow: Drums. Jerry Tattum: Bass Guitar.
Front: Geoff Marsden: Vocal - Percussion). Barry Smethurst: Vocal - Harmonica.
"I'm Jerry Tattum formerly of Blackburn and early 60's band 'The Brethren' - usually mis-spelled Bretheren – even by ourselves, earlier known as 'BACS+1'. I now live in N. Virginia, just outside Washington DC, where I settled with my family 26 years ago.
I found the site while investigating what might be online re: E Lancs bands who were contemporaries of the late and, most likely, unlamented Bretheren (sic). There was much that interested me but nothing moreso than the bio of The Electones aka “Barry I’Anson & The Electones” - see below.
The Electones and The Brethren played many of the same venues - in particular the Nelson Imperial,The Mocambo Clubin Darwen andEast Lancs CC.. but never at the same time.
The Electones had a higher profile than we did - not least because we short-sightedly passed up the opportunity to be managed by theatrical agent Jim Blundell who, I think, managed The Electones - or, maybe was an agent or other person-of-influence. However, I don’t recall viewing The Electones back then with envy - more as a fan, I’d say.
What struck me as a serious omission in the segment on the Electones – specifically re their set list – was their regular opener - a typically original choice - which was an amazing rendition of 'In a Persian Market’. Lead guitarist Jim Hopwood’s trademark Gretsch - Chet Atkins sound lent the number an 'impact' tone that I still recall to this day.
Like many of our contemporary bands’ members, I’d guess, we now look back with a 'what if..' attitude, not to say, regret, that we The Brethren opted for the security of modest but regular income rather than summoning up the cojones to head South and take our chances in the Smoke!
Instead – having 'settled' then – we settle still with nostalgia for highs no greater than, say, all-nighters on the Mersey showboat 'The Royal Iris' supporting the likes of Jackie Lomax & The Undertakers. But that’s life, and not all bad, even allowing occasional peaks like meeting up recently with ex-Accrington 'Warrior', now California resident, Jon Anderson and chewing the fat over Saturday afternoon visits to Reidy’s Home of Music -Blackburn - in the early 1960’s and slavering over the first Fender Strats' to ever grace East Lancs' shop windows.
Needless to say that earlier meeting with Jon had remained in my memory, but not his! And no, I’m not saying that Jon’s gone all 'big-time'. I doubt The Brethren were ever on The Warriors’ radar anyway. The good news:- he’s still a Blackburn Rovers fan, after all these years, and watches them on the same TV station I do."
Jerry Tattum: November 2010
PS. "Oh. Should perhaps also mention a recent reunion at his Portland, Oregon home with ex-schoolmate - QEGS, Blackburn and sax man Chris Mercer. The ex Bluesbreaker and session man to the stars for 16 years - still gigs on a regular basis. I'd have loved to to have quizzed him into the early hours on experiences like sharing the bill with Jimi Hendrix at Filmore West - S Fran' - and Blue Boar - Watford Gap - link-ups with every British 1960's rocker you've ever heard of, but instead we reminisced mostly about memories of schooldays. Next time, maybe?"
"We used the then Standard Commer - or was it a Morris van and decided to have the band's name down each side. The band member - I forget which one - who sent instructions to the guy who did the 'coachwork' - large posters in reality - added the extra 'e' and signed us as The Breth'e'ren. Rather than divvy-up the price of a re-do we embraced the extra letter. A little short-sighted, probably!
Finally I note from the Sunday Times letter on the Lanky Beat page that at one time, at least, you had a Chorley address. Coincidentally, although The Brethren were a Blackburn band, our Fan Club was run by a Chorley lass. Wish I could remember her name."
Tom Casey: Lead Vocal Drums Guitar. Dennis Newman: Bass Guitar. Brian Gibbs: Lead Guitar.
The Answers Brick in the Cavern Wall of Fame - Liverpool
"This lot were absolutely fantastic."
"A three piece with as much punch as you could ever imagine. Dennis had a Fender Jazz? Bass that he must have attacked with a chainsaw, couldn’t tell what make it was in the end, but crikey could he play it, with a Vox Supreme amp and 2 x 18” bass bins with tweeters. Tweeters !!!! on a bass cab - the sound was amazing. He played a lot by hitting the fretboard with his fingers. I consider him to be the best bass player I have ever seen, Ever!!. Seriously, Mark King of Level 42 could not have touched him. He used to wear hot pants.
Top Of The Pops..
Brian went on to join Rainbow Cottage, and did some recordings down at William Leyland's place in Hindley. He was so gentle in the way he played and sung, but he was very special. I think he might have written the song 'Seagull' which they played on Top of The Pops -Live - I believe. I think I was there when they mastered it, I don’t know how or why?"
Garry Hughes: May 2010.
"Just a bit of info about my bass set up. I just loved the sound of a Fender Jazz, but couldn’t get it from anything you could buy at the time. After a lot of experimenting, and dozens of burnt out tweeters, we found some old Canadian army telephone speakers in a junk shop in Oldham (There is a point to all this). By pure accident, and a bunch of capacitors, they became mega powerful re-entrant midrange horns, which were chromed and bolted onto a pair of home made 18" cabs that needed a fork truck to lift. Driven by a Vox Supreme amp, we had the deep bass, and the top end zing that the Jazz did so well. After that it sort of ‘played me’, and I just hung on. Now and again we got it together, Tom, running like a machine on his kit, rock steady and powerful, Brian on fire and giving me great cues for bass riffs. Anyone who never played in a small band could never know the cocaine hit of that experience. Brothers in Arms, Spoiled for life. Nothing since has ever come close. All the old band members must feel the same."Dennis Newton: November 2010
HARLEM JOHN'S RESHUFFLE
TNT & The Dynamites: Stax of Soul: The Soul Brothers.
L-R: Name Unknown: Barry Elton: Guitar. Jimmy Travis: Stuart Widdall: Lead Vocal.
Bob Elton: RIP. Jack Taylor: Drums
Barry was last known working in a trio in Yorkshire clubs at weekends.
Alan Bowes: November 2010
Note: The above posters spelling of the name 'Johns' has a double 'N' in it.
Bill Hart: November 2010
A Harlem Johns Reshuffle Brick in the Cavern Wall of Fame - Liverpool
The HJS invented 60's live white northern soul-music, much as UB 40 re-invented their version many years later.
Pop music was finding new markets in the late 60's some went blues, other went heavy, these guys went soul-music 24 carat gold. Stuart would sing and walk - walk and sing. Along the full width of any stage he sashayed all night long. And rarely did he ever eyeball his adoring audiences either. Just side to side as the brass section complimented the bass/drum/guitar engine room big-sound style. "Tight"- he would bellow between his pin-point accurate vocal deliveries -"TIGHT".
I played resident drums at Orrell British Legion near Wigan when Stuart and his small band arrived one Saturday night in the mid 70's. Under a new and unfamiliar name, the music (and the walk) were unmistakeably the same. For sure, I'll never forget how "tight" I played with these guys that night.
The cover and reverse of the 1969 HJR LP.
Courtesy of Dave Keegan: November 2010
HJR morphed into Stax of Soul and then The Soul Brothers Band which still performs today..
Bill Hart: June 2010
The Electones: Weather: Surf Side: Six:
Barry I'anson: Lead Vocal. Tony Jordan: Keyboards-Guitar.
Jim Hopwood: Lead Guitar. Pete Taylor: The Singing Drummer.
Pete Eddleston: Bass Guitar.
Weather's Brick in The Cavern Wall of Fame - Liverpool
"My name is Peter Eddleston and I was bass guitarist with The Electones, Summers, Surf Side, Six, Weather. I really enjoyed your piece about us.
Pete Taylor was the singing drummer - he now lives in South Africa, but was over here two weeks ago. Needless to say we had a boozy re-union.
We all sang and we all took our turn at singing at least one lead. We worked unbelievably hard at rehearsals we were very strict task masters, we didn't allow much artistic freedom we had to perform on stage as rehearsed and we accepted this willingly. The Casino chain was a good source of gigs. I think there was about six of them, infact we were spotted at the Bolton Casinoby Marty Wilde and we began a long association with him.
Barry and I still perform in a rock 'n roll band along with a former Electones' drummer- my brother phil. I still see the other guys from time to time, needless to say it was the best time of our lives! When I talk to my son and his mates I feel I cannot get across to them what a privelege it was to grow up through that era. I will try and find some memorabilia for your excellent site.
Regards and keep on rockin."
Pete Eddleston: August 2010
As the Electones, the band played a memorable night-of-nights at The Co-oporative Hall, Darwin. The night was the 25 January 1963 and the top of the bill was an up-and coming band from Liverpool: The Beatles.
Going to Wigan Casino on Monday nights was always going to be an anti-climax to the weekend just gone. But if it is seen as an extension of that same weekend it always did seem to round it off in pretty good style. The Bands played for cheaper fee's on weekdays including Mondays. The attendance figures were also down so the general atmosphere was low key rather than Saturday night 'uppy.
Tonight however, the Casino was to be sunkissed with pure musicalgold. I had no way of knowing beforehand what these guys were actually like. Introduced as The Electone's, they ripped into Surfin USA, I Get Around, Fun-Fun-Fun and many more the Beach Boys current chart topping hits including some of Frankie Vallie & The Four Seasons stuff and Jan & Dean's equally well-known surf-type songs. Laid-back and with overt, consumate ease, they blasted their way into a whole new twilight zone of live musical performance. With five-voice harmonies and the drummer singing high falsetto's - what was being done live here and now - was until now, completely and uttlerly unheard of. The best you would get would be three voices; a lead singer and two on backing vocals singing counter melodies (Please - Mr Postman).
These guys were breaking live vocal rules big style and the next few Monday nights - indeed any nights - were never quite the same after that. This one almighty Wigan Casino debut paved a new way forward for me and my lasting love of close rock 'n roll harmony has been there ever since.
The Shyms played on the same bill many times with them and we became quite pally, pally. Later, I'd heard that they had gone off to London for recording sessions as 'The Summers' only to return north later on to come back north as
'Weather'. Well, I suppose up here, we have plenty of that!
I saw them again at a maquee gig in Standish and the drummer had microphones hooked up to each drum to give him a a bigger sound. This too was obviously another brand new first!"
Bill Hart: June 2010
Bill Hart Alan Turner Malc Green Alan Bentham Dennis Berry
Drums Lead Guitar Rythmn Lead Vocal Bass
(Billyshym) (Rocky) (Twig) (Benny) (Razz)
Formed in 1964 all but Dennis sang harmony backing vocals with some added lead vocal work from Alan T, Bill & Malc.
This kind of versatility gave rise to a rich and varied play list which other cover bands of the day could never quite emulate. This gave them unprecidented popularity with a huge local following. Fans would pack out place's such as Wigan's Court Hall and Wigan Casino on a regular weekly basis.
Shyms songs included a twelve-minute Beatles Sgt Pepper LHCB medley which included 'Sgt Pepper', 'Little Help From My Friends', 'She's leaving Home', 'Penny Lane' & 'Sgt Pepper (Reprise)'. Other major hits included covers of Merseybeats classics like 'Sorrow', The Everley Bros 'Cathy's Clown' and the Hollies 'On A Carosel'
Shyms In A Van
Blue with a red grill was our Austin J2 12 seater 'van' VED 287. It carried theShyms and their entourage around country for a couple of years about 1964-66. Note the white miners helmet perched on top at the front: What's it doing there? Don't ask!
Derek (Degsy) Derbyshire RM was self-appointed Shyms 'Road Manager'. The Shyms and friends went to Butlins Holiday Camp Minehead on Wigan Wakes Week holiday together. We stopped here to break the journey.
Below Degsy takes control of the Shyms 'newly refurbed', specially-adapted Morris 'Carrier'
12 Seater: 2459 XJ.
Dennis Berry: Bass Guitar - Degsy and Colin Bond: The reserve RM.
In Saddleback Road, Norley Hall, Wigan; where Malcolm Green: Rythmn Guitar lived.
"No.. The lamp post is not fitted to the van!"
In 1968 Bill left the Shyms to Join Preston band Mike Hurst & The Trekkers. Drummer Brian Webster joined as the band re-named themselves Tynfoil.
Bill rejoined in 1971 for a short spell. Alan B left in 1972 with Alan T reverting to drums with Malc on lead and Dennis on Bass. Tynfoil continued playing for the next two years and folded as a working three-piece in 1974.
Something Catchy played as Tynfoil at the Cavern Club 27 Dec 2004 for one night to commemorate the Tynfoil last-minute and mysteriously cancelled booking of 29 Jan 1970 - 34 years later.
The Tynefoil Brick in the Mathew Street Wall of Fame - Liverpool
features a miss-spelt Tyn(e)foil.
28 Dec 2004 Alan Bentham leads the 'Tynfoil' 'debut' at The Cavern Club
Alan 'Rocky' Turner Bill 'BillyShym' Hart
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Dave Green: Faces Tickets. Derek Hogg Thurston Hannon R-I-P - Frenz.
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A Senators Brick in the Mathew Street Wall of Fame - Liverpool
"I loved the Senators, they were a gift from heaven to me. They were an unashamed beat group, with a repertoire nicked from the -'This is Mersey Beat LP'S.'
The big guys like The Beat Boys and Long & The Short were superb, but because they were so popular, the chance to see them became less and less as they played away from local gigs.
Not so The Senators: I could catch them most weekends at local youth clubs. They were all friendly guys, and I ended up playing with three of them in different groups later.
Polished they were not, but they were loud. and heavily rockin and i was impressed by their sheer energy: Think The Beatles in Hamburg with Stuart Sutcliffe and you have the Senators nailed. I even booked them for a school dance.
I got some early guitar lessons from Jimmy Thurston R-I-P. In fact he showed me my first chords."
Mitch Mitchinson: August 2010
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The Li'l Three
Eddie Warwick: Guitar. Paddy O'Neill: Lead Vocal. Pete Hughes: Drums.
Barrie Spence: Bass Guitar. John Rich: Lead guitar.
A Chuckles Brick in the Mathew Street Wall of Fame - Liverpool
Three Short Days - By The Chuckles on The Polydor Record Label
John Featherstone: August 2010
Jimmy Dyke: Lead Vocal. Mike Walsh: Guitar. Colin Holcroft: Drums.
John Wilding: Bass guitar
I was the bass player with the band Flooky for six years. When we eventually split I went with Jimmy to form the duo Too Much. We were always getting introduced as the Two Of Us; Colin and Mitch - the real Two Of Us - are great mates of ours of course..
John Wilding: September 2010
Edward John Concern
George Monks: Lead Vocal. Dave Lawson: Drums. Geoff Shepard: Guitar.
Malc’ Mather: Guitar. Garry Hughes: Bass
In 1973 Kevin Gough left Edward John Concern to start a family and the group disbanded. This was a sad moment but the group moved on.
Re-forming later with a new guitar player, Malc Mather, who had worked with Bolton band Pendulum for many years. Malc' had a raunchy, more heavy sound that changed the way that the group would work. EJC had gone into the lighter side of rock. Soul and Tamla was moved to one side for a spell. The group was changing. Dave Lawson did a 10 minute drum solo using his big double bassdrum kit and Malc would end the show with a Jimi Hendrix version of Star Spangled Banner, played through a cool Marshall 200 watt stack. It was loud.
Bits on show?
Playing at The Bier Keller in King Street, Wigan one night and I remember a guy swinging from the light standards like Tarzan, drunk as a skunk with all his bits on show... what a place!
A voyage to everywhere UK..
Humbug were contracted to Leyland Enterprises (LE Agency) and began on a voyage to everywhere UK. Playing everything from Workingmens Clubs to Private Girls Schools and Holiday Parks. Working 6½ days a week (every other Wednesday off). Crikey it was horrendous. We worked the Riverside Wigan Rugby League Club every Tuesday and Thursday nights after Copper Kettle threw in the towel.. never quite sure if they did us a favour or not!!!
Good memories though of the Siloth Lido and Distington, Egremont and many other West Cumbrian venues. I think these was regular venues for LE Agency groups; Rainbow Cottage, Winston, Copper Kettle etc.
Garry Hughes May 2010
RUMBLE FAT BAND
Three of the original members from 1968 are Joe Carroll, Keith Davies and Stuart Bunyan. 2010 line-up with added support from various Sax Players, Guitarist and Drummers.
Stuart Bunyan: May 2010
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